Timing belt Gates 2050 Croma T serie 1 8V

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Timing belt Gates 2050 Croma T serie 1 8V

Post by torkil » September 5th, 2015, 8:23 pm

Hi still looking for a better belt and i can see Gates have Blue racing belts . But they dont have any belt with same zise as the 2050.

The 2050 has 142 toots 18 mm wide , same tooth pattern as the old 2 lter , So i use Old pattern Camwheels, Anybody have some soulutions for stronger belt, I change belt 2 times a season. Reg Ove Thorkildsen Oslo Norway
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Re: Timing belt Gates 2050 Croma T serie 1 8V

Post by Guy Croft » September 5th, 2015, 10:44 pm

pm Will Pattinson (Ford Capri readers' cars...)

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Post by Will01 » September 6th, 2015, 7:57 pm

If you can send some more details on the car it fits to I can check the belt and see if there are some upgrade options. E.g.Year, engine size etc
Failing that i might be able to make one to suit.
Blue Racing belts tend to come from our US friends or further afield.
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Post by Guy Croft » September 6th, 2015, 9:37 pm

Thank you very much for checking in dear Will..

Ove is such an important member, elegant, uber-skilled and clever friend and follower of the TC religion,

Ove (r) to you!!

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Post by torkil » September 7th, 2015, 10:15 pm

Thanks friends for helping mee,

Cambelt 142 teeth 10 mm from center to center off the coggs,
Distance between the coggs 6mm
Pattern off the coggs -sligtly tapered.flat end.
Width off the belt 18 mm, but can take 19mm.

Lenght off the belt is 135,2 centimeter ,mesured cutted whenn laying flat .


I can see Volvo 2,5 and audi have somthing perhaps possible to use.

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Post by Will01 » September 7th, 2015, 10:39 pm

Thanks for extra info.
I am.guessing but I reckon it is L pitch trapezoidal tooth form. Therefore 0.375in or 9.525mm pitch.
Will have look to see what is available.
Pitch length is teeth x pitch = 1352.55mm

Pulley face width will determine what width belt you can take. If a pulley in the drive has a flange both sides then you need approx 1 mm more width than the belt to allow belt to move. E.g. 18mm wide belt needs 19mm wide pulley face width.
If pulleys have only got one flange you need extra ~3 mm width over belt.
Please confirm what you have available for face width.
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Post by Guy Croft » September 8th, 2015, 12:17 pm

I have 142 x 1" wide 3/8" auto pitch trapezoidal in stock, Will, Ove

however I am not sure the crank front pulley will accept the wider belt, even if the camwheels do. The outer rim of the GC 1" adjustable pulleys can be reversed to offer correct alignment though..

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Post by Will01 » September 8th, 2015, 12:25 pm

I can see there is 5080 which is an Aftermarket Gates belt 142t (9.525mm pitch) x 18mm width

I can also see the belt Guy is talking about which i believe must be 5166 which is also an Aftermarket Gates belt 142t (9.525mm pitch) x 25.4mm width.
This will only fit if the pulleys can accept the width, assuming the info i said above about number of flanges on pulley in the drive and allowing a little clearance.

The only other options would be to start a fresh and make a brand new belt to suit, but as you can imagine this becomes a much larger project needing more resource. This would need to have a large following to make this happen.

Let me know your thoughts guys
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Post by Guy Croft » September 8th, 2015, 12:48 pm

5166 yes

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Re: Timing belt Gates 2050 Croma T serie 1 8V

Post by Guy Croft » September 8th, 2015, 2:05 pm

Ove,

you need to look at getting a new wider front pulley made to take the 1" belt,

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Post by torkil » September 8th, 2015, 9:36 pm

Thanks Guy and friends , I will see if i can fit a Twinn Cam crank pulley , witch will accept a 1 inch belt , But can i get 142 teeth 1 inch belt?

Anyway many thanks to you all , It is wery helpful information, Ove
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Re: Timing belt Gates 2050 Croma T serie 1 8V

Post by Guy Croft » September 9th, 2015, 5:54 am

I have that belt Ove!

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