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Abarthnorway - Remi L
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Hi!


Just got my new citycar/workcar home.

It is in need of a general overhaul and rebuild of the complete suspension, as the ride is very .... messed up to be honest.
A new fast road engine is already in the process - http://guy-croft.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3152

Its a not a beauty, a few battlescars - but I could not resist it. Its practical and has a beautiful engine....
Its a not a beauty, a few battlescars - but I could not resist it. Its practical and has a beautiful engine....
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Bored, flexhoned, washed and painted
Bored, flexhoned, washed and painted
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Sold on the wheels/tires, Minilite copies with correct 4*98 and a bit more rubber to go on. This kiddo now wants to sleep in the car not in his bed....
Sold on the wheels/tires, Minilite copies with correct 4*98 and a bit more rubber to go on. This kiddo now wants to sleep in the car not in his bed....
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I love the human touch!

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I love it!
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Engine still under build.

Block ready for Ritmo 1299 pistons
Block ready for Ritmo 1299 pistons
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All new or overhauled/balanced parts
All new or overhauled/balanced parts
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Checking ring gaps - all within specs
Checking ring gaps - all within specs
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Planning oil cooler and electric fuel pump
Planning oil cooler and electric fuel pump
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Roughed out to the dimensions I want - around 27 mm intake port, 25*29 mm on smallest exhaust point - this is for a city car with low and midrange torque in mind.
Roughed out to the dimensions I want - around 27 mm intake port, 25*29 mm on smallest exhaust point - this is for a city car with low and midrange torque in mind.
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I have removed quite a lot of material from the sides of the bowl leading down to valveseats - planning to increase the internal diameter of the valve seat from 30 ---> 32 mm to fit a 36.2 mm valve. The combustion chamber is aslo opened up to the gasket firering - is a bit close to the inlet valve at a few places
I have removed quite a lot of material from the sides of the bowl leading down to valveseats - planning to increase the internal diameter of the valve seat from 30 ---> 32 mm to fit a 36.2 mm valve. The combustion chamber is aslo opened up to the gasket firering - is a bit close to the inlet valve at a few places
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I have got hold of a Ritmo 85 camshaft - still not measured it duration/timing but it has 0.3 mm higher lift than the original camshaft....not much.... will figure out what to do.
Will probabaly also install electronic ignition from an x1/9.
Overhauled Solex 40C ADDHE now on the shelf waiting for Jets etc
Old Supersprint 4-2-1 long manifold (about 35" total length)
Thin head gasket 1.1 mm compressed
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Nice...

I learnt to drive in a blue one of these in the 80s, which my dad had to make deliveries from the family shop.
It was a great car until it broke its belt.

Probably what got me going in Italian machinery too.
All my mates bought wheezy old Fiesta's, I bought an orange 127 1050 Sport & left them in my wake.
Looking back, it seems a bit scary to remember the flat out 4th gear revs being pulled.
Back then I was 20 yrs old with not much mechanical sympathy.
I drove it foot flat on the floor everywhere and the car just took the punishment.
Eventually, I swapped it for a 127 1300GT with the luxury of a 5spd gearbox - in retrospect a bad move !.

Anyway, enough of me thinking about about the good old days.
Yours is a good project, enjoy the rebuild AND the driving experience.
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Thanks Matt!

Yep - the 127 Sport is something else!! Cool cars and getting scarce!

Personally I started my driving in a rusty Ritmo/Strada 85S, then got hooked on the 130 TC`s.....still are:-)

Regarding the gearing the Panorama has a 4.40 final drive - this will be changed to a 3.76 from a Ritmo or I might even go for a 5 speed box. Do not know yet.
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Slow progress on the engine.

Have been waiting for a long time now for suspension parts to arrive.....getting a bit annoyed by that.
Found the Supersprint manifold, probably not perfect, but it is what I have at hand - hopefully better than the stock 4-1 cast iron manifold anyway.
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ID 32 - 36 - 42 mm - total length approx 35"
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Still waiting for paid suspesion parts from former Yugoslavia. Obviously a mixed bunch of vendors out there..... Now 2 months without any replys to my emails. Really annoying to be scammed on parts.... Luckily I have several suppliers to choose from, so progress will not stall completely.


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Slow progress here.

Sending car for welding in new frame for front windscreen. Tired of waiting forever for suspension parts from a #*###*! Croatian dealer.....I have now ordered and recieved the same parts now from another reliable source.

Just had the head back from the machinist to open up the valve seat throats a little. Intake from 30-32 mm, ex from 27-28mm.

Will post some pics soon.
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Valveseats opened out to 32mm in - 28 exhaust
Valveseats opened out to 32mm in - 28 exhaust
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finished valve throat - now grinding the valveseats slightly - next finishing the combustion chamber with the old valves installed.
finished valve throat - now grinding the valveseats slightly - next finishing the combustion chamber with the old valves installed.
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Manifold for fitment of Solex 40 ADDHE - slightly better breathing with these insted of single weber 32 with 24 venturi.........
Manifold for fitment of Solex 40 ADDHE - slightly better breathing with these insted of single weber 32 with 24 venturi.........
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Now port matched to manifold - approximately 31 mm at head face
Now port matched to manifold - approximately 31 mm at head face
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New valves just slightly slimmed down, very bulky head and stem in small port....
New valves just slightly slimmed down, very bulky head and stem in small port....
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That was the fun part.....
All old cars rust - Fiat 128 also....
All old cars rust - Fiat 128 also....
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Car heading off for welding at the great racing personality Ove aka Torkil. Currently racing a VERY FAST x1/9 16V with 45 mm injection
Car heading off for welding at the great racing personality Ove aka Torkil. Currently racing a VERY FAST x1/9 16V with 45 mm injection
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