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Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: April 2nd, 2016, 3:53 pm
by Spider 1969
Neat looking air box to fit your immaculate engine bay Phil!
Did this recover the 10 bhp?

Best regards,
Charles

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: April 2nd, 2016, 4:33 pm
by Guy Croft
Interesting question.

If it doesn't gain power it's a reflected negative wave wave coming off the lid at some speed, not a volume problem..

GC

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: April 2nd, 2016, 7:11 pm
by PumaPhil
Spider 1969 wrote:Neat looking air box to fit your immaculate engine bay Phil!
Did this recover the 10 bhp?

Best regards,
Charles
Hi Charles, thanks you, and I hope so! I'll need to go to Northampton Motorsports to find out for sure. I'll post the results when I go there next.

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: April 26th, 2016, 3:19 pm
by PumaPhil
Bumpers!

I've not been totally idle over the winter, I finally decided to fit the classic bumpers. I delayed for a while because I had other priorities and after pushing the US spec' ones closer to the bodywork I quite liked the 'broad shouldered' look. But I eventually decided to try some polished stainless ones that used mounting kits that didn't require any holes to be cut in the front of the car.

Old bumpers before they were pulled close to the bodywork.
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Bumpers pulled in to bodywork.
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New bumpers. Note the small indicator lights I had to fit.
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I weighed the old bumpers and they weighed around 45 Kg! I didn't weigh the new (old!) ones but they are thin and very light. And I can report that unsurprisingly the car does feel somewhat more sprightly.
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Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: April 26th, 2016, 4:09 pm
by Rallyroller
Hi Phil

Car looks stunning. Well done. Makes me think about getting my other shell out of storage and making it into a road car.

Nigel.

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: April 26th, 2016, 6:35 pm
by Guy Croft
Hi Phil,

we meet often and have become good friends! I like you superb photos and the work you have done very much. Location RAF Cranwell if I am not mistaken..!

That number plate has got to go. Not good. I suggest you remove the Fiat badge and stick a plastic one on the bonnet. If the Police object, fair-enough - but it is hardly a capital crime!

The car is so damn pretty I think they will enjoy it too and understand the reason..

That is what I did years ago..


GC

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: April 26th, 2016, 9:18 pm
by Spider 1969
Indeed stunning Phil, huge improvement!
Another suggestion is to use an italian size number plate as I did. Don't know if it's allowed in England (it isn't in Holland, but to my opinion it's harmless) See photo below.

Like your wheels too; what width are they?

Charles

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: May 1st, 2016, 5:00 pm
by Piotrek125p
Really nice job Phil, your 124 looks amazing now. A beatifully look of your car + GC mild tuned engine must be a real pleasure factory when you driving it.

GC, could you share with us a more photos with your 124 ? It is a most beatiful rally cars in history and your looks really, really amazing.

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: May 1st, 2016, 6:40 pm
by Guy Croft
sorry I just don't have any..

I rarely took photos of the car, no internet or digital cameras in those days....

G

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: May 3rd, 2016, 12:58 pm
by PumaPhil
Hello GC, Charles and Piotr,

Thank you for your comments and I can't think why I was initially reticent to change the bumpers, probably because I didn't know about the conversion kit that negates the need to cut holes in the bodywork.

Charles, the wheels are 15" Cromodoro replicas. I think they are a good compromise as with standard 13" rims it gets difficult to get decent tyres plus it is very difficult to fit bigger brake calipers in them. But beware that bigger 'boots' do weight up the steering somewhat so a little finesse is lost.

GC, I agree about the number plate. I'll investigate a stick-on one although I do take pleasure in the quizzical looks on people's faces when they see the Fiat badge. A smaller one would be nice, although I think it will simply attract the 'boys in blue' as they clamp down on anything that is not totally legal these days.

thank you, PG

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: May 3rd, 2016, 2:13 pm
by Rallyroller
Hi Phil

Re stick on numberplate be careful- boys in blue only like them if visible from the front on a vertical surface. ( I suppose camera friendly!)

My old rally car had one ( Like Guys) - but MSA dont allow them now on the bonnet so will have to come up with another solution.

Nigel.

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: May 3rd, 2016, 6:53 pm
by Guy Croft
worth trying the sicko-on, I would.

Might get uniform interested enough to open the bonnet!

Caution maybe, I doubt much else..

G

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: May 3rd, 2016, 7:13 pm
by PumaPhil
Hi Nigel and GC,

You've reminded me that I did check the detail of getting a stick-on number a couple of years back but I don't think you can get them very easily. But I tend to think that Guy is probably right and that plod would be more interested in a nice classic rather than making a big deal of it. But then again, I like the Fiat badge...

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: May 3rd, 2016, 7:28 pm
by Guy Croft
fake little Italian number plate maybe?

You can have my old one TOM 9529S

you won't get stopped because they won't speak Italian! Way too much bother.

When I drove my CSA back from Turin I was doing about 95 up the old A20 and a traffic police car overtook me. I thought "uh-oh... I am for the chop now", but they never stopped me!

G

Re: 1977 124 Spider CS1 - Lincolnshire UK

Posted: June 5th, 2016, 10:21 pm
by PumaPhil
I've got a new number plate, the 'style' at least is certainly legal:
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Hopefully an improvement on the huge one below that is about as subtle as Nanny McFee's tooth!
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