Unable to identify the origin of this engine; Help needed!

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Unable to identify the origin of this engine; Help needed!

Post by Ev0luti0n_ » September 21st, 2010, 10:33 pm

hello!

I bought my UT with this engine already. The previous owner stated it was from a Lancia dedra 1.6, wich i doubt it. So after looking around on the web/eper, etc, i was unable to find the car model from which my engine came from. Any help would be appreciated!
From what i've searched online, the block seems just like the X1/9, and the head looks to be from the tipo 1.6 SOHC. The inlet valves measure 39mm (afaik), and concerning the looks of it, it is very similar to the 1.4 UT on the outside. Same size and everything... Oh, a bloke also told me it could probably come from a regata 100s, but...

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the head that mates with this block:
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1.6 on the left, 1.4 UT on the right

PS: you can also read on the side of the block the following numbers:
335.A1.000
8044926

thanks

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Re: Unable to identify the origin of this engine; Help neede

Post by Guy Croft » September 22nd, 2010, 1:33 pm

I regret that even my Fiat dealer cannot trace that block code or engine number.

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Re: Unable to identify the origin of this engine; Help neede

Post by Ev0luti0n_ » September 22nd, 2010, 2:19 pm

wow!

http://archive.mirafiori.com/show.php?fid=6&msg=16759

"And the last one is our 1 600 cc, used in Tipo, and that's pretty much it. It was originally SOHC, and later on there was a 16v
head developed for it, so it became a DOHC 16v in a few of installations. That 16v head will definitely fit on and M202.13
and M202.11 (useless, since they are almost non - existant, but it would be nice to see it with 16v head!).
Designation is M202.15"

One can find this on that page. What do you think, Mr. Guy Croft? Reliable source?

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Re: Unable to identify the origin of this engine; Help neede

Post by Guy Croft » September 22nd, 2010, 3:25 pm

I have been unable to find a direct ref to your codes in that that Mira thread.

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Re: Unable to identify the origin of this engine; Help neede

Post by Ev0luti0n_ » September 22nd, 2010, 6:13 pm

Try searching for "m202.15", without quotes. You're able to find that text that i posted here, along with other m202.XX engine versions. Supposedly...

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Re: Unable to identify the origin of this engine; Help neede

Post by Guy Croft » September 23rd, 2010, 9:07 am

John, sure, but I don't see the connection betw the numbers on your engine and in that thread.

If the engine code is right it should show up at Fiat, but maybe it's some foreign import.

The ribbed block (criss-cross) aux d/s pulley tells me it's MkII Uno/Punto maybe Tipo, not X19. Beyond that bore and stroke might help ID.

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Re: Unable to identify the origin of this engine; Help neede

Post by Ev0luti0n_ » September 23rd, 2010, 8:11 pm

Apparently, some folks in a Portuguese Fiat forum helped me to identify the engine. One of them searched on AutoData (Don't know which version) and the code corresponds to the Lancia dedra 8v spi.
Dedra SPI>
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Dedra MPI
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Now i my goal will be to find some spare parts! Thanks for the help Guy!

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