Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

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Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by DeltaDave » Sat May 12, 2012 11:23 pm

Hi there everyone, I will shortly be requiring the services of someone to run in and calibrate/map my Integrale 16V engine (as prepped by Guy) It will be running a DTA engine management. Can anyone recommend a top quality engine calibration/mapper with experience of the Lancia Integrale engine, DTA engine management and a 4 wheel rolling road or dynopack In the UK?

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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by 1NRO » Mon May 14, 2012 5:33 pm

Simply on reputation I'd suggest considering Leighton from FC Performance, many happy Fiat Coupe owners and some integrales too.
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Post by DeltaDave » Mon May 14, 2012 7:39 pm

Thakyou for your suggestion but it seems like they not have the facilities that I am looking for. Although i have also heard the name mentioned before it seems like he does his main mapping on the road.

I will state some of my requirements.

1. Whole project has cost somewhere between £80k to £100k and over 7 years of hard work to put together (so you see how important this is to me).
2. Must have a 4 wheel Dynopack, Im not risking my whole last 7 years on rollers nor road.
4. Reputation must include more than 6 years experience and good recomendations that can be checked out.
5. The installation is more than likely to produce more than 500 bhp.
6. Must have good experience with DTA ecu system.
7. Must also be ok with me spending all of the mapping time learning about how the system works on my car. Also to be there to sort any other teething issues.

What im really looking for is someone who has already had a good experience with an engine mapper with these qualities/equipment that owns a genuine 500+bhp car
1NRO wrote:Simply on reputation I'd suggest considering Leighton from FC Performance, many happy Fiat Coupe owners and some integrales too.
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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by 1NRO » Mon May 14, 2012 8:03 pm

The hard work will pay off I'm sure.
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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by DeltaDave » Mon May 14, 2012 8:18 pm

1NRO wrote:The hard work will pay off I'm sure
Many thanks
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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by tricky » Mon May 14, 2012 8:45 pm

Leighton is well thought of in the online Fiat / Lancia clubs.

Dave when you say dynapack, do you mean 'hub' configuration ?
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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by DeltaDave » Mon May 14, 2012 9:08 pm

Yes Tricky I mean hub configuation.

I am currently looking at 3 options that I have traced from the Dynapack website. Maybe some of you may be able to shed a little light.
The 3 companies are:-
Thor Racing (Coventry)
Advanced Motorsport & Engineering (Silverstone)
PJ Motorsports & Performance centre (in Willenhall near Wolverhampton).
tricky wrote:Leighton is well thought of in the online Fiat / Lancia clubs.

Dave when you say dynapack, do you mean 'hub' configuration ?

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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by tricky » Mon May 14, 2012 9:40 pm

Advance motorsport is who I was building up to mention, out of three personal (local) freinds of mine one had a bad experience with this company, but It could partly be put down to that freinds own in-experience in some way if you know what I mean.

A mate built a gt4 (ST205) engine which took some years to get running right, the fella who built the engine was a great engine builder who ran a small motorsport firm. The car made 588 hp but for years suffered a multitude of normal running problems asociated with the calibration. Advance motorsport spent a whole day on it and it ran like a peach and made 600 hp. Also the other story was on an evo 3 stroker build which was mapped there and ran / started / drove nicely, made 400 bhp @ 1bar.

I know there only stories and not direct opinion but I had some form of involvement in both the cars and drove both before and after. And I know my freinds were very satisfiyed (well two of them).
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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by DeltaDave » Mon May 14, 2012 9:43 pm

Thankyou mate. maybe you could fill me in more details about the bad experience in a pm instead of writing in the post, then i can make my own mind up?

Dave
tricky wrote:Advance motorsport is who I was building up to mention, out of three personal (local) freinds of mine one had a bad experience with this company, but It could partly be put down to that freinds own in-experience in some way if you know what I mean.

A mate built a gt4 (ST205) engine which took some years to get running right, the fella who built the engine was a great engine builder who ran a small motorsport firm. The car made 588 hp but for years suffered a multitude of normal running problems asociated with the calibration. Advance motorsport spent a whole day on it and it ran like a peach and made 600 hp. Also the other story was on an evo 3 stroker build which was mapped there and ran / started / drove nicely, made 400 bhp @ 1bar.

I know there only stories and not direct opinion but I had some form of involvement in both the cars and drove both before and after. And I know my freinds were very satisfiyed (well two of them).

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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by tricky » Mon May 14, 2012 9:51 pm

Ok sure, but tomorow as I'm feeling the calling for sleep !
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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by pete_rallye » Mon May 21, 2012 10:23 pm

Have you heard of a guy called Wayne Schofield? He has a company called Chipwizards in Rochdale. He has much experience with DTA (he mapped my car on an S60) and has been mapping cars for years. I'm fairly certain his rolling road is only a 2wd one but before he had his own premises he hired other peoples for however long the mapping process took. I'm not sure he still does this but it may be worth a call. Drop me a PM if you want his contact details.
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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by Infectus-Guy » Mon May 21, 2012 10:26 pm

Voodoo tuning in Didcot, Oxfordshire? I doubt they have Dynapack though.
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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by Guy Croft » Wed May 23, 2012 9:32 am

My client Darren Drury at Louth Volksworld (see 'Links') knows a 4WD rolling road, they do their Golf GTi race cars there.

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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by DeltaDave » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:22 pm

I have decided to go with Advanced Motorsport & Engineering (Silverstone) after visiting thier premises and having a good long chat with them. They gave all the right answers and ticked all my boxes so hopefully will be on thier Dyno Pak in approximately 5 weeks,

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Re: Engine calibration/mapping suggestions

Post by Guy Croft » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:21 am

I shall be recommending ex Brian Hart man Steve Greenald to Andy Wright for his 16v Integrale.

Steve (Essex-based) is highly regarded and has his own in-house stuff for 2WD but for 4WD he rents one local to him. I've known of him by repute for years. He has deleted his website and so it was only by chance via client Mick Wood that I was able to look him up. We had a super & long chat yesterday.

He is comfortable with all the best name systems (DTA, Motec, Omex to name but 3) but will not work with OEM ecu stuff so check first.

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