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Camshaft identification

Posted: January 11th, 2011, 6:15 am
by ace124
I have a couple of cams that im having difficulty identifying.
They measure 10.25-10.3mm total lift (measured with dial gauge off base circle)
Duration with protractor as best i could measure is: 129* @ 0.5mm lift
116* @ 0.8mm lift
97* @ 1.3mm lift (0.05')
This is obviously cam duration.
They seem to be billets and the Ex has a distributor drive gear cut.
The only markings i can find are A24 1 thats on the end of both cams.

Im thinking they may be alquati spec grinds made by C&B??
How should they be timed initially?
Any further info would be great.

Re: Camshaft identification

Posted: January 11th, 2011, 10:39 am
by Guy Croft
Alquati steel billet, 40/80 80/40, 10.35mm lift, 0.4mm running clearance (cold). Originally designated for 'medium modified' 124 Sport Fiat (with distributor gear) 1600cc. Good cams, wear is unusual but lift can be checked with a dial gauge (dti), though use in a bigger engine will make them comparatively 'milder' in performance than the 1600.

Camillo Alquati, for those who do not know, was an Italian manufacturer based in Cremona. He passed away in 2005.

G

Re: Camshaft identification

Posted: January 11th, 2011, 11:08 am
by ace124
Thanks for the fast response Guy.
Ill be running them in my current 1800 engine. 10.4:1 CR, 45's/36mm chokes, 43.5mm In valves, ported head, 421 manifold, electronic ig etc.
What is the recommended full lift position of these? Any idea of LATDC with this setting?

Also, plan on using them in my 1400 engine when i move back to Cyprus. Do you think they will be too 'hot' as a tight hillclimb/forest rally type cam (mid range torque)? Ill be using 40mmDHLA's and prepared head as per your book?

thank you

Re: Camshaft identification

Posted: January 11th, 2011, 11:57 am
by Guy Croft
No idea of LATDC sorry. Contemporary setting would be ((80+40+180)/2)-40 which is 110 deg, but I would be tempted to go with a closer lobe separation and use 105 inlet 108 ex.

You can certainly run them in a 1400.

GC

Re: Camshaft identification

Posted: January 26th, 2011, 5:56 pm
by 124racerinIA
Guy,

I am installing these cams in the 1974 124 Spider I,m preping for SCCA competition. I am using the stock 1756 motor with a header and a 34dmsa carb. My question is:

After installing the cams per your instruction on 110 deg. centers, the pointer is off from fasctory spec. To achieve 105 deg on the intake should I back up(rotate counter clock wise) the cam gear to better match the hole and the pointer from the factory?

Jon

Re: Camshaft identification

Posted: January 27th, 2011, 10:47 am
by Guy Croft
That is by no means unusual and it is precisely what adjustable camwheels are for,

G

Re: Camshaft identification

Posted: January 27th, 2011, 1:10 pm
by 124racerinIA
Thanks